Here Are Some Quotes From Some Political Wigwigs...
" To preserve the unity of India, if we have to eradicate 2-crore [ 20 millions ] Sikhs, we will do so. (Balram Jhakhar, a colleague of P.V. Narsimharao, the former Indian Prime Minister)
" The Sikhs are a lawless people and a menace to the law abiding Hindus ... The [Government] should take strict measures against them." (Pandit Nehru, Indian Prime Minister, on Sikhs)
"Kya main taqat dushman (the enemy -the Sikhs) ke haath main de dun (How can I entrust power into the hands of the enemies)." (Jawahar Lal Nehru, 1961)
" I hate the very physique of a Sikh because of the turban and beard. " (Vallabh Bhai Patel, late Indian top politician)
"I don't give a damn if the Golden Temple and whole of Amritsar are destroyed, I want Bhindranwale dead." (Indira Gandhi, Indian Prime Minister, communicating with Gen. Vaidya during "Operation Blue Star")
"We have broken the back of the Sikhs and we will get them elsewhere." (M. M. K. Wali, Indian Foreign Secretary, June 7, 1984, Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, Radio 740, As It Happens)
"Let us teach these bastards (the Sikhs) a lesson." (Rajiv Gandhi, October 31, 1984)
"... a threat to the villagers that all males would be killed and their women taken to army camps to breed a new race if there was any militant activity in their village." (Brig. R. P. Sinha, Indian Army, March 8, 1991)
"You do not know the might of our armed forces. We will eliminate 10,000 Sikh youths and the world will know nothing about it." (Chander Shekhar, former Prime Minister of India, CK, 21st October, 1991)
All the above quotes has been made by some heavyweights at some point of time right from the time after our independence. Well my sole aim is to quote them as most of us are not knowing these facts. My question basically is HOW IS A RELIGION AND OUR COMMUNITY ( WE SIKHS ) ARE SUPPOSED TO REACT TO ALL THESE QUOTES? AFTERALL WE CANNOT BE SPECTATORS TO ALL THESE THINGS WHEN SOMEONE IS MALIGNING OUR UNDOUBTABLE INTEGRITY TOWARDS OUR MOTHERLAND? This point is open for discussion and me waiting for it to happen? Comments awaited.
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Sat sri akal to all of you. I want to comment on certain things. I have seen some of the guys(From all quaters and walks of life, from RSS personels to qualified and well read(I doubt if they are) engineers) repeatdly saying Sikhs as part of Hindus or extended arms of Hindus. Let me make you guys 1 thing clear if Sikhism was to be the arm of Hinduisim, Sri Guru Nanak Devji would never had formed this sacred faith and please stop labelling us as allies of Hindus and Muslims. Ours is a faith which has got its stability by its own. We have fought for our identity from the era of Sri Guru Gobind Singhji to the massacare of 84 and we are surviving thanks to the brave soldiers of the Punjabi Motherland. One more thing I would like to add here is that I read someone sayin Sikhs are more in numbers in the Indian Army than Muslims. Here is a fact: Before independence out of the total number of freedom fighters hanged to death for independence, 80%(without any source but a generally accepted) of them were SIKHS WHY? just because we are allies to Hindus. Answer is Big NO, because we are ones who the bravest of the all in the way that we always take it upon ourselves to save and die for our motherland. and then take Kargil war same situation there again, Sikh regiment was the one who fought on the fought on the forefront borders and took the bullets on their chests rather on the back dying as cowards, Is it because we are somebody's ally? Answer is again Roaring No, Although we account 2% for the total population of India, yet count the martyrs till the date you will get the answer? and nobody should doubt the caliber of sikhs somebody was seen Condemning the Sikh PM( Dr. Manmohan Singh), Read his "Resume". See his Credentials before commenting. Instead of doubting him, He should be labelled as the Saviour of This Nation, otherwise till now we like Pakistan would have been looking towards America for financial aid so that we could eat. None of the Nehru and Gandhian family or for that matter any other politician has for studied that much till now? Whether it is Rajiv Gandhi, Indiara Gandhi, Rahul gandhi and their genious Priyanka Gandhi couldn't even make in to HOME SCIENCE in some college in Delhi!
The whole point of presenting my side of whole issue is not to downplay any other Religion or Community but is to make a point Why it is we at whom the finger(gun) is pointed towards? For many people this would a point to think upon, but for us it's a question of our dignity and holding our head high?
Now the Big Question, If despite all our sacrifices for our motherland, we are labeled as rebels then there is big hole in the system?
Factfile:
People who Attacked Darbar Sahib (Golden Temple) Have not lived More Than 153 Days.
Name____________attacked________lived upto
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Massa rangarh___03-08-1740______02-01-1741
(153 days)
Yahia Khan______13-11-1746______13-04-1747
(153 days)
Jahan Khan______18-01-1757______19-06-1757
(153 days)
Ahmad Shah______05-02-1762______08-07-1762
Abdali
(153 days)
Indira Gandhi___01-06-1984______31-10-1984
(153 days)
We know only way to get of trouble and make this world hear loud and clear.
It's Harpreet Singh signing off on a High Note.
" To preserve the unity of India, if we have to eradicate 2-crore [ 20 millions ] Sikhs, we will do so. (Balram Jhakhar, a colleague of P.V. Narsimharao, the former Indian Prime Minister)
" The Sikhs are a lawless people and a menace to the law abiding Hindus ... The [Government] should take strict measures against them." (Pandit Nehru, Indian Prime Minister, on Sikhs)
"Kya main taqat dushman (the enemy -the Sikhs) ke haath main de dun (How can I entrust power into the hands of the enemies)." (Jawahar Lal Nehru, 1961)
" I hate the very physique of a Sikh because of the turban and beard. " (Vallabh Bhai Patel, late Indian top politician)
"I don't give a damn if the Golden Temple and whole of Amritsar are destroyed, I want Bhindranwale dead." (Indira Gandhi, Indian Prime Minister, communicating with Gen. Vaidya during "Operation Blue Star")
"We have broken the back of the Sikhs and we will get them elsewhere." (M. M. K. Wali, Indian Foreign Secretary, June 7, 1984, Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, Radio 740, As It Happens)
"Let us teach these bastards (the Sikhs) a lesson." (Rajiv Gandhi, October 31, 1984)
"... a threat to the villagers that all males would be killed and their women taken to army camps to breed a new race if there was any militant activity in their village." (Brig. R. P. Sinha, Indian Army, March 8, 1991)
"You do not know the might of our armed forces. We will eliminate 10,000 Sikh youths and the world will know nothing about it." (Chander Shekhar, former Prime Minister of India, CK, 21st October, 1991)
All the above quotes has been made by some heavyweights at some point of time right from the time after our independence. Well my sole aim is to quote them as most of us are not knowing these facts. My question basically is HOW IS A RELIGION AND OUR COMMUNITY ( WE SIKHS ) ARE SUPPOSED TO REACT TO ALL THESE QUOTES? AFTERALL WE CANNOT BE SPECTATORS TO ALL THESE THINGS WHEN SOMEONE IS MALIGNING OUR UNDOUBTABLE INTEGRITY TOWARDS OUR MOTHERLAND? This point is open for discussion and me waiting for it to happen? Comments awaited.
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.
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Sat sri akal to all of you. I want to comment on certain things. I have seen some of the guys(From all quaters and walks of life, from RSS personels to qualified and well read(I doubt if they are) engineers) repeatdly saying Sikhs as part of Hindus or extended arms of Hindus. Let me make you guys 1 thing clear if Sikhism was to be the arm of Hinduisim, Sri Guru Nanak Devji would never had formed this sacred faith and please stop labelling us as allies of Hindus and Muslims. Ours is a faith which has got its stability by its own. We have fought for our identity from the era of Sri Guru Gobind Singhji to the massacare of 84 and we are surviving thanks to the brave soldiers of the Punjabi Motherland. One more thing I would like to add here is that I read someone sayin Sikhs are more in numbers in the Indian Army than Muslims. Here is a fact: Before independence out of the total number of freedom fighters hanged to death for independence, 80%(without any source but a generally accepted) of them were SIKHS WHY? just because we are allies to Hindus. Answer is Big NO, because we are ones who the bravest of the all in the way that we always take it upon ourselves to save and die for our motherland. and then take Kargil war same situation there again, Sikh regiment was the one who fought on the fought on the forefront borders and took the bullets on their chests rather on the back dying as cowards, Is it because we are somebody's ally? Answer is again Roaring No, Although we account 2% for the total population of India, yet count the martyrs till the date you will get the answer? and nobody should doubt the caliber of sikhs somebody was seen Condemning the Sikh PM( Dr. Manmohan Singh), Read his "Resume". See his Credentials before commenting. Instead of doubting him, He should be labelled as the Saviour of This Nation, otherwise till now we like Pakistan would have been looking towards America for financial aid so that we could eat. None of the Nehru and Gandhian family or for that matter any other politician has for studied that much till now? Whether it is Rajiv Gandhi, Indiara Gandhi, Rahul gandhi and their genious Priyanka Gandhi couldn't even make in to HOME SCIENCE in some college in Delhi!
The whole point of presenting my side of whole issue is not to downplay any other Religion or Community but is to make a point Why it is we at whom the finger(gun) is pointed towards? For many people this would a point to think upon, but for us it's a question of our dignity and holding our head high?
Now the Big Question, If despite all our sacrifices for our motherland, we are labeled as rebels then there is big hole in the system?
Factfile:
People who Attacked Darbar Sahib (Golden Temple) Have not lived More Than 153 Days.
Name____________attacked________lived upto
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Massa rangarh___03-08-1740______02-01-1741
(153 days)
Yahia Khan______13-11-1746______13-04-1747
(153 days)
Jahan Khan______18-01-1757______19-06-1757
(153 days)
Ahmad Shah______05-02-1762______08-07-1762
Abdali
(153 days)
Indira Gandhi___01-06-1984______31-10-1984
(153 days)
We know only way to get of trouble and make this world hear loud and clear.
It's Harpreet Singh signing off on a High Note.
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[i]"People who Attacked Darbar Sahib (Golden Temple) Have not lived More Than 153 Days"[/i]
i sincerly wanted a discussion, not just b'coz something fair/unfair/unjust/just/ happend, b'coz i wanted to know what and where things actually went wrong, only reson why i wanted to know was if history could actually teach me something about human behavior and some inbuilt characteristics about human mind.
As i went ahead with the article i just realized one thing, here is one another example of uneducated jerk.
let me ask u, do u even realize the difference between being literate and educated, i really don't know what's well read supposed to mean.
leave aside my irritation, i am irritated or rather dissappointed b'coz i couldn't find any difference in thoughts between say a rickshaw wala n "well read person".
U know the basic steps in solving or rather actually understanding a problem ? [b]Introspection[/b].
where did "sikhs" ( i do not know, if want to club ppl like u with our pm )went wrong ? were they wrong at any point of time ? do retaliating back, raising fingres ever solves a problem
Do u even realize what u r doing ? do u actuallly want to understand this n make sure nothing of this sort happpens again to u or to any other community ? or do u want to pick up ppl n start killing them b'coz they have done this and done that ?
What is ur purpose of all this ? Agreed whatever has happend has happpend..what do u want to do know ? pick up rest of the ppl n start killing them ? ( sikhs r supposed to be bravest ).
Harpreet, Our purpose should be, by "our" i mean everyone, to actually analyse things to why it happend..to understand how it shouldn't happen again.
Agar ek ghar mai rehna hai to lets understand each other, the effort has to be made from both sides, n thank god ppl( atleast some sikhs) have actually understoood things, else atleast india would have to face another war in the name of jehad.
Again, simply stating a problem serves no purpose, suggest a solution, if not suggest measures to avoid the problem in future.
I hope i wasn't rude.
Wahe guru ji da khalsa, wahe guruji de fateh. as it is said in the holy book "RAAJ KAREGA KHALSA"
Hi, alok and jeeva.. SMALLER ONE FIRST( smaller is always not by size) ,, thanks jeeva. According to me, \"RAJ KAREGA KHALSA\"
is mentioned in the Ardas that we are supposed to perform in the evening, not in the Sri Guru Granth Sahib. Well Khalsa is
derived from the word Khalas meaning \"pure\" so this verse mean\'s that the Purest will rule, not any religion. So Happy
Jiwateshwar singh.
Over to Alok, you said you cannot find a difference between a rickshaw-puller or a well read person .... take the current
topic according to a sikh rickshaw-puller the solution will be to kill all the enemies(in this case all the people making
derogatory remarks or attacker\'s of Golden Temple)... but a well read( here by well read I mean person having adequate
knowledge and who could be able to think of far reaching conclusions.) will sit and debate whether this way is going to solve
the problem from recurring. Then you said that I am merely stating a problem, not actually proposing the solution. Now when
the problem of terrorism was at it\'s peak in late eighties and early nineties... then the people of punjab thought that this
is not the solution to it, and backed of from helping so called Saviour\'s of the Faith. It was not that the insurgency was
killed by the forces but by the People. Now look the people found out the solution to a severe national problem. It could be
that you could also not trust me that no it was not done by the people but by the forces. But then why are the forces able to
acheive against the most bravest of the races but not in J&K, Andhra, Some areas of chattisgarh, in north eastern states,
even when they are extremely less equipped than what The personel\'s of KLF, KCF or Babbar Khalsa were. Now when the people of
whole community has taken a stand against them, then why are we sikh\'s still clubbed with those outlaws( jokin first they
were inlaws). Why is the whole Community\'s name taken in the same vein. And on the whole my main aim of the post was to say
that this community of sikh\'s is not for having strained relation\'s with other community, I wanted to state that all the
problems will end when we will start respecting each other\'s religion. Accordingly I have never seen for last 10 years the
priest\'s of Sikhism downplaying any other religion or anyone\'s beleif but I am bothered to say that this not that case with
the preacher\'s of Hinduism( Preacher\'s of RSS, togadia\'s, list is long). If you donot consider them the leader\'s the I am afraid too say that this community is without guidance. Hoping that I am able to make my point.
If you have any doubt that I have failed to clear here then you should be liberal enough to post it here.....
Thank\'s for \"........\"
Be right there for my next post, because remember I cannot take off without you people.
bas, jo sochna tha soch liya.
aab aur nahi dimag chalana hai.
tc
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